The T5 debuted with an application called Files. This file manager was fully documented and used in many third party applications like DocsToGo 7. Search is enabled to do a rudimentary VFS file search. Also, it allows to open files directly if a supported application is installed.
Anyways, the E2 contains an online help that references to Files. And indeed, the program can be installed on a Tungsten T3 and E2:
This feat is easy to achieve. Get yourself a T5 and use a third party file manager like FileZ. Copy or beam the following files out of the T5’s RAM:
- FileBrowser-PFil.prc
- FileBrowser-PFil_enUS.prc
- FileBrowserLib-PFiA.prc
- Filez.prc
Anyways, adding these four files to an E2 instananeously enabled all kinds of things. Favourites now allowed to assign files as favourites, Blazer can open local files and DocsToGo 7 allows you to choose in which folder to save a file. The global find facility now looks for filenames in VFS btw. A Tungsten T3 behaved similarly, altough there is no Blazer and no Favourites on it(yet). However, DocsToGo 7 and Find exhibited a similar behaviour!
Overall, Files is a good file manager. It allows you to move directories. The direct file opening is an extremely useful feature-this compensates for the lack of RAM file view imho. And you can have Files and Filez installed at the same time.. . However, the main point of the ‘upgrade’ are the extra functions that are added to third party programs. Also, getting a file manager for free is-um-funky…
anyone willing to send me the files in german
Ruben
tosbsas at gmail. com
Sweet idea. I am going to link to this post on my blog.
Thanks for the info!
Ey. Could you please test to save an attachment from VersaMail with Files installed? (it should show FileBrowserLib’s Save As dialog) It crashes my T|X — and that’s why I not use Files, but I would really like to use it.
I don’t understand why Palm didn’t put it in the T|X. Its API was even going to be submitted to PalmSource.
Hi,
I agree to Tam. The most important feature is the search and the open dialogues in 3rd party apps and Favourites. But especially for file operations you need another file manager on your Palm. FileBrowser 2.0 (LifeDrive) has support for multiple files but still no ZIP, etc. support, and I don’t think this will come…
No idea why it crashs on a T|X… Maybe the files from a LifeDrive work?!
Alex
Works fine on my TX - in Favorites, DocToGo, versamail ok to send attachment from card (allows browse) and can save to card (no browse though?).
willbewill
I had to save the files to SD card and then copy to internal using fileprog.
willbewill
Yes, there is browse when saving from VersaMail — you have to soft-reset after installing FileBrowserLib-PFiA.prc.
Hi,
I think VersaMail doesn’t use FileBrowserLib when saving to card. Or perhaps you need a newer version. Version 2.7.1 works fine.
You can save it to SD card and then copy it using FileZ, FileProg, etc. when Palm Desktop doesn’t work, but you can use Pilot Install. Palm Desktop has problems with some “hacks”, but Pilot Install is a great install programm, too.
A softreset is recommend after every “hack”.
Alex
>I don’t understand why Palm didn’t put it in the T|X. Its API was
>even going to be submitted to PalmSource.
I think Palm only integrates its file manager in devices with a built-in HDD or flash memory (LD, T5).
Alex
Hi,
keep in mind: I took the files off a T5!!!!
The problem I see with Files is that it lacks the capability to show RAM files. This makes FIleZ remain on my handheld… . However, for most everyday operations(and for opening that file that it deep down in my card), Files is a beautiful tool..
Best regards
Tam Hanna
Can anyone send me those files?
where can i find this program? it isn’t very easy to google after a program called “Files”. Maybe its possible to post a direct link?
or send it per email.
nice regards
I´ve just tried on the Tungsten C simulator and it works as you said, but I´ve also installed the Favorites app from the T5 and it works…most of it (no background option), so I can have shortcuts to folders in the SD card. So I guess I´ll do a backup and see if it works well on the real thing…
You cannot download this. It’s part of the Palm OS on the T5. You have to copy it from a T5.
On my TC Favourites also work, to get the background working you need additional libs (I couldn’t get this working)…
Alex
Hi,
I have Favourites and Files running on my T3 for quite some time now. I will post sth about it today or tomorrow!
Backgrounds dont work though…
Anyways, I am sorry, but nope. I cannot send those files per email or distribute them. Just walk up to some guy with a T5 and have him beam it over to you. Or, why not ask at a forum like 1src? A Palm User Meeting is a good place for this to occur…
Best regards
Tam Hanna
yeah me too want a copy… jeffjarin@yahoo.com
thanks!
We won’t send copies to you. But perhaps you know someone who has a T5.
BTW: If you’re wondering on which devices it runs: On any Palm with PalmOS 4.1 and greater and a VFS device. If you have problems on your device, please let us know!
Alex
Tam, I’ve been having problems getting this to work with my TE2. This is the list of four files you mentioned in your post:
* FileBrowser-PFil.prc
* FileBrowser-PFil_enUS.prc
* FileBrowserLib-PFiA.prc
* Filez.prc
Is the Filez.prc listed above the regular Filez application? I assumed it was.
Anyway, I obtained the four files and tried copying them from my expansion card to the E2’s RAM using FileProg (which is my preference over Filez).
After copying the FileBrowser files (and Filez), I had the “Files” (with an S) program up and I could access it from Favorites. However, each time I tried, I’d get a Fatal Error: FileRegistry.c Line 1047 - Can’t open app DB.
Furthermore, deleting those new files would disable “Favorites” so I ended up hard-resetting and restoring from backup. I tried this all a second time with the same result. Any ideas? I’d love to have the direct access to specific files in “Favorites.”
Hi,
first of all, I am very sorry that this didn’t work out.
Anyways, this looks like the files came from a bad source. Where did you get them from?
And last but not least-which language is your handheld set to?
Best regards
Tam Hanna
P.s.Yeah, FileZ is FileZ. You can omit this prc!
I got them from the 1src boards, as you’re already aware…
Oh, and my handheld is in English.
Hi Doug,
um, that now is a problem.
Can you somehow try to get the files off a real T5?
Please try the following:
Put the three files onto an SD card(with FileZ). Copy them into RAM. Then, softreset the unit!
Best regards
Tam Hanna
I don’t have direct access to a T5, so I kept playing with the version of the files I have. I tried it again with a soft-reset after directly copying the 3 files to RAM. That still didn’t improve things. It appears that it will crash after each new action (i.e., run Files, designate top line in Favorites, etc.) but a second effort will then work. I still don’t think I have the patience for that many crashes.
After restoring from a hard reset, I tried one more idea– warm reset, then copy files over, then soft reset. No difference.
Does the TX have this feature?
Thanks anyway, it would have been cool if it worked…
Hi Doug,
did you try the steps on a hardresetted handheld?
Files works on my E2 really really well…so maybe an app on your handheld cloggs it off.
Best regards and asorry
Tam
P.s. No joke. It works on my T3 really really well, and so on my E2.
Hmm. I Might as well give it a shot. Nothing ventured, nothing gained…I’ll try tonight.
Hi Doug,
this is the way we like our readers! There are soo many apps that can conflict in one way or the other!
And BTW, drop me a line at
Tamog AT gmx DOT at!
It will pay out for sure!
Best regards
Tam Hanna
check out post from dmitry - middle of this page
http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105030&page=4&pp=15
Hi ruben,
the problems one iof the people above experienced come from the files on the T5. Different files work well.
BTW; Files 2.0 from the LifeDrive does not work on my T3. It can be implanted into my TE2 without problems though!
Best reegards
Tam Hanna
[...] Resumiendo, otro programa que estaba pensado para incluirse en el software de serie de la E2 y T3, y mejorar a los demás programas instalados, pero que misteriosamente nunca lo logró. ArtÃculo original en el blog de TamsPalm. [...]
The T5 files from Dmitry work on my Zodiac 1, but it might help to use FileZ to uncheck the Read Only attribute after you copy the files to RAM but before you do the soft reset.
Hi telyx,
a difficult thing. I saw quite a few users wherer Dmitrys files failed, while files from another source worked well…
Best regards
Tam Hanna
Maybe the other source’s files aren’t marked “read only.” All of Dmitry’s files (from the big T5 dump) are…
I even had VersaMail 3.1c (from the TX dump) working on my Zodiac except that 1) all of my stored e-mails (stored before the “upgrade”) were suddenly only headers, and 2) those headers’ HTML wasn’t “translated” even though I installed the HTML plugin file (and its localization file) and selected in the prefs that it display in HTML. Freshly received e-mails were also in untranslated HTML; all of the tags were visible and there were no line breaks or anything. (Toggling to display in text or HTML made no difference.)
I ended up doing a hard reset and restore to get my 2.7.1
back. (Still can’t get 2.7.1 to go full-screen without CodeDiver for some reason–but 3.1c did go full-screen.)
Hi Telyx,
what about installing 3.1c and then restarting from scratch? I beleive that VersaMail may not do too well when upgrading, as it isnt intended to upgrade. It isnt sold alone nowadays….
Best regards
Tam Hanna
When I installed and ran the 3.1c files, it noticed I had an earlier version of VersaMail installed and asked if I wanted to upgrade, to which I tapped Yes.
I’ll be getting a second Zodiac 1 next month and will use that one for testing and as a backup, so I’ll try your suggestion then.
Thank you for the testing! So VersaMail 3.1c runs on your Zodiac?! That are interesting news! Could you tell me which files you took from the TX?
When you open a mail, it shows HTML tags? I know the problem from the simulator, but on my TC it crashes when I try to open a mail, I can’t use VersaMail 3.1c. So I think there is a lib missing.
Alex
Hi,
I had the same experiences on my Tungsten T3 afaik.
Can you give us more info on what you installed?
Best regards
Tam Hanna
It worked as described on my “production Zodiac,” but I deleted the 3 folders of files since VM 3.1c couldn’t seem to handle the HTML translation. I tried copying files again from Dmitry’s TX dump for my “test Zodiac,” and couldn’t get it to work at all–tapping the VersaMail icon blanks the screen and then it goes back to the launcher. (Maybe I didn’t get all the files this time, but I can’t imagine what other files I needed.) I eventually gave up and bought SnapperMail.
I read on Palm’s site that VersaMail 3.1c uses Blazer to translate HTML, so maybe someday I’ll get ambitious and try this again with Dmitry’s files, this time including all the Blazer files I can identify.
Hi telyx,
nice to hear back from you.
HTML rendering didnt quite work on my Tungsten E2 btw-but I left its old blazer on..
Best regards
Tam Hanna
Over the weekend, I came pretty close to getting VersaMail 3.5 (included with the BlackBerry Connect download from Palm) working on my Zodiac. If I didn’t load any Blazer files, I got un-rendered HTML for the “helpful hints” e-mails from Palm (included in the VersaMail files). I then loaded all of the files I could identify as Blazer files from Dmitry’s TX ROM dump. Instead of un-rendered HTML, I’d get an error message “Failed to load the shared library.” Trying to run Blazer itself got me a soft reset and an error message that “Web” (aka Blazer) is not signed– though I have the “PopAccess” hacked DAA on my Zodiac. So I think the problem is that VersaMail can’t access whatever it needs from Blazer because the Zodiac won’t let it.
So close, but so far away… SnapperMail works fine, but I had to try this.
Hi Telyx,
what files did you install?
Best regards
Tam Hanna
Sorry for such a late reply… here is a list of the VersaMail 3.5 files from the BlackBerry Connect download.
_MMServers.pdb
AboutBoxLib.prc
AirSAM.prc
BgService.prc
CarrierProfiles2.pdb
CategoryLib.prc
DmTxn.prc
IIDataLib.prc
MIAttachLib.prc
MM_BES_FPI.prc
MMConduit.prc
MMConfigFPI.prc
MMHtmlPlugin.prc
MMMailTo.prc
MMNotify.prc
MMPhotos.prc
MMPluginMGR.prc
MMPRCPlugin.prc
MMSDCard.prc
MMSmartAdd.prc
MMTextPlugin.prc
MMUnzipPlugin.prc
MMUpgrade.prc
MMVCal.prc
MMVCardPlugin.prc
MMWave.prc
MMWizard.prc
MMWordPlugin.prc
MultiMail.prc
NetworkProfiles2.pdb
PalmVMFontLibrary.prc
SAMgr.prc
TextLookupFPI.prc
TxnLogLib.prc
I’ll have to make a list of the Blazer files I installed when I’m at work, since that’s where I downloaded the ROM dump.
Hi,
what connect download do you mean?
Best regards
Tam Hanna
Palm’s “BlackBerry Connect” download for the Treo 650. (Palm’s website had it available a few weeks ago, but I can’t find it now. Strange.)
Hi,
do you still have it archived maybe??
Best regards
Tam Hanna
Hi.
I have a T5 and when updated to the 1.1 version I started to get the 1047 error in the Files application. Anyone knows any solution for this problem?.
Thank u a lot.
What did you update to 1.1?
Hi,
hardresetting maybe?
Best regards
Tam Hanna
How/where can i find those files? (behind from spending money just for 4 archives o.O)
Hi,
walk up to an (unpatched) T5(not sure if Files 2 works everywhere) and copy it off!
Best regards
Tam Hanna
[...] After that, the cookie is eaten. While you still don’t have access to background images(coming soon) or file links(you need Files for that), Favourites now allows you to list apps and web sites(works with WebPro 3.5). As an added bonus, it also works well on OS4 handhelds like an upgraded Palm V or a WristPDA. [...]
Please can you email me the T5 apps. Thanks
Things that work and doen’t work on my TX:
1. DriveMode copied from a T5 works great!!. DriveMode from a LifeDrive doesn’t work at all.
2. Dmitry’s E2InternalDrive.prc works OK if installed alone. When installed with DriveMode, it crashes. Apparently it’s because the internal memory is TFFS and not FAT, so DriveMode cannot handle it (Thanks for the tip Dmitry). THAT MEANS YOU CANNOT USE DRIVEMODE FROM A T5 (V.1.0) AND E2INTERNALDRIVE TOGETHER.
3. Files (PalmOne’s File Browser) when copied from a T5 makes the tx crashes everytime I try to enter the app (with or without E2internalDrive.prc). When copied from a LifeDrive, the app doesn’t crash, I can enter it, but the SD Card icon (or the buitin drive icon if E2internaldrive installed) on the right upper corner doesn’t appear on the screen and I cannot handdle or work with any directory; I can’t even create a directory, a dialog appears when so telling me the directory already exist and none appears on the screen. (I copied FileBrowser-PFil.prc,FileBrowser-PFil_enUS.prc
FileBrowserLib-PFiA.prc). I CANNOT CONFIGURE FILES TO WORK ON MY TX.
Any suggestions??
BTW,
changing the attributes of FileBrowser-PFil.prc,FileBrowser-PFil_enUS.prc
FileBrowserLib-PFiA.prc from read-only to not read-only (unchecking the read-only attribute of each file on FileZ, and even unchecking the backup attribute) makes no change. Checked or unchecked, files from a T5 won’t work on my TX.
I tried copying the FileBrowser files you mentioned from my lifedrive to my treo 680. Didn’t crash at all, but just doesn’t show any files for folders! I can’t seem to find a file browser that will launch files in Documents To Go. The interface of Docs to go sucks because it throws all my files into a single list, ignoring the folder organization. Any ideas?
OK, This is the solution.
The files you need to copy are FOUR and not TREE as mention above (note that FileZ.prc is the FileZ app used to copy the files)
The files you need to copy from the LD are:
1. FileBrowser-PFil.prc
2. FileBrowser-PFil_enUS.prc (or_esES or whataver language you want)
3. [b]FileBrowserCacheLib-PFil.prc[/b]
4. FileBrowserLib-PFiA.prc
Note that the [b]FileBrowserCacheLib-PFil.prc[/b]file is not mentioned above. This file will make the Files app to show all files and folders Brian.
If you install all four files and the palm resets each time you try to enter the files application, you need to do a hard reset and then install all files. After just copy the Saved Preferences.prc file just not to loose your unlock codes for your apps previously installed
This will do it!
Greetings,
Caitoz
OK, This is the solution.
The files you need to copy are FOUR and not TREE as mention above (note that FileZ.prc is the FileZ app used to copy the files)
The files you need to copy from the LD are:
1. FileBrowser-PFil.prc
2. FileBrowser-PFil_enUS.prc (or_esES or whataver language you want)
3. FileBrowserCacheLib-PFil.prc
4. FileBrowserLib-PFiA.prc
Note that the FileBrowserCacheLib-PFil.prcfile is not mentioned above. This file will make the Files app to show all files and folders Brian.
If you install all four files and the palm resets each time you try to enter the files application, you need to do a hard reset and then install all files. After just copy the Saved Preferences.prc file just not to loose your unlock codes for your apps previously installed
This will do it!
Greetings,
Caitoz
OK, This is the solution.
The files you need to copy are FOUR and not TREE as mention above (note that FileZ.prc is the FileZ app used to copy the files)
The files you need to copy from the LD are:
1. FileBrowser-PFil.prc
2. FileBrowser-PFil_enUS.prc (or_esES or whataver language you want)
3. FileBrowserCacheLib-PFil.prc
4. FileBrowserLib-PFiA.prc
Note that the FileBrowserCacheLib-PFil.prc file is not mentioned above. This file will make the Files app to show all files and folders Brian.
If you install all four files and the palm resets each time you try to enter the files application, you need to do a hard reset and then install all files. After just copy the Saved Preferences.prc file just not to loose your unlock codes for your apps previously installed
This will do it!
Greetings,
Caitoz
hi every iam a newbie out here can any one plz tell me from where to get this file manager.
Hi Wolvo,
off a Tungsten T5, for example!
Best regards
Tam Hanna
hi every iam a newbie out here can any one plz tell me from where to get this file manager.
IMHO, the “Cache” file only belongs to Files 2.x.