Comments on: Voice Over Your Palm (VOYP) – A new ray of hope for Palm VoIP http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/ Palm OS / web OS news and opinion source Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:33:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kodomo http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-75047 kodomo Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:47:05 +0000 http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/#comment-75047 I bought VOYP v1.4 and at the current state, it's got a couple of annoying bugs (one of which might make it unusable for some people): 1) when I call someone, the person doesn't take the call and I hang up again, the ringing tone continues until I do a soft reset of my T|X. If I try any more calls before resetting the device, it gets unstable and either freezes or reboots. 2) The SIP stack is very minimalistic. When a phone call cannot be routed immediately (e.g. upon calling a cell phone) and the gateway returns "100 Trying", these messages are discarded and VOYP interpretes the timeout on the "200 OK" message as a separation from the gateway, terminating the call (without notice to the gateway). Thereafter, the cell phone continues ringing, but even if the call is accepted, no communication is established. In my case, this causes all mobile phones to be unreachable. The latter bug can be circumvented, if you set up your own asterisk server and use DISA (which connects directly) - but this, of course, is hackish and awkward. So people who don't mind these bugs can buy the software... for the rest, I'd recommend waiting until the bugs are fixed in (hopefully) upcoming versions. (I contacted the Support/Developer about these issues over 1 month ago, but didn't get any reaction but a short "We will look into your suggestions." yet) I bought VOYP v1.4 and at the current state, it’s got a couple of annoying bugs (one of which might make it unusable for some people):
1) when I call someone, the person doesn’t take the call and I hang up again, the ringing tone continues until I do a soft reset of my T|X. If I try any more calls before resetting the device, it gets unstable and either freezes or reboots.
2) The SIP stack is very minimalistic. When a phone call cannot be routed immediately (e.g. upon calling a cell phone) and the gateway returns “100 Trying”, these messages are discarded and VOYP interpretes the timeout on the “200 OK” message as a separation from the gateway, terminating the call (without notice to the gateway). Thereafter, the cell phone continues ringing, but even if the call is accepted, no communication is established. In my case, this causes all mobile phones to be unreachable.
The latter bug can be circumvented, if you set up your own asterisk server and use DISA (which connects directly) – but this, of course, is hackish and awkward.
So people who don’t mind these bugs can buy the software… for the rest, I’d recommend waiting until the bugs are fixed in (hopefully) upcoming versions.
(I contacted the Support/Developer about these issues over 1 month ago, but didn’t get any reaction but a short “We will look into your suggestions.” yet)

]]> By: VR http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-64069 VR Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:37:56 +0000 http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/#comment-64069 Tried MobiVOIP (scam) 3/2007 - same issues - no support, just take your money. I'll get it back via the credit card company - not that hard. Tried MobiVOIP (scam) 3/2007 – same issues – no support, just take your money. I’ll get it back via the credit card company – not that hard.

]]> By: ovi http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-16736 ovi Sun, 01 Oct 2006 03:27:37 +0000 http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/#comment-16736 Hope this works. Lost 45 dollars with MOBIVOIP (got enthusiastic when I read the news here - stoopid me) plus they made a fool out of me. To top it, they charged an extra 10 $ the day after I canceled, just because they have your card information and they can. Fighting for the 10 bucks is more time spent and not worth it and they know. CAPITAL crooks. toysoft is a reputable soft company. Hope they'll make it right Hope this works.
Lost 45 dollars with MOBIVOIP (got enthusiastic when I read the news here – stoopid me) plus they made a fool out of me. To top it, they charged an extra 10 $ the day after I canceled, just because they have your card information and they can. Fighting for the 10 bucks is more time spent and not worth it and they know.
CAPITAL crooks.
toysoft is a reputable soft company. Hope they’ll make it right

]]> By: Steve http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-14462 Steve Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:40:15 +0000 http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/#comment-14462 I already used Vonage softphone on my desktop. So was able to use the same on my LD over WiFi. I already used Vonage softphone on my desktop. So was able to use the same on my LD over WiFi.

]]> By: Toysoft http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-14458 Toysoft Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:36:01 +0000 http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/#comment-14458 For Vonage you need to call them and ask to active a SoftPhone account. they will give the userid and password. you then use that info and configure VOYP. You should also need the server name and port. these are listed in the voyp manaul. For Vonage you need to call them and ask to active a SoftPhone account. they will give the userid and password. you then use that info and configure VOYP. You should also need the server name and port. these are listed in the voyp manaul.

]]> By: Norbert http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-14448 Norbert Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:49:01 +0000 http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/#comment-14448 Tam: You mentioned that you used your Vonage account. Was that the same account that you use for your home phone or was it an additional Vonage "softphone" account. I have Vonage at home but can't figure out how to leverage it for use with my Palm. Any ideas? Tam:

You mentioned that you used your Vonage account. Was that the same account that you use for your home phone or was it an additional Vonage “softphone” account.

I have Vonage at home but can’t figure out how to leverage it for use with my Palm.

Any ideas?

]]> By: Steve http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-14443 Steve Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:46:43 +0000 http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/#comment-14443 I tried both, to me VOYP looks good as I use some products from Toysoft like PAR and Lightwav, where Hampton does not have any flagship products. Considering Toysoft's experience in Palm - I would vote for VOYP. Also the features are also good. I like the battery saving feature in VOYP. Also as the article reads there are future plans for it where as Articulation doesnot have any such thing. I was worst bit by the mobivoip bug - which ate my whole $15 and gave nothing back claiming that I had reported late and their support is very bad. Costwise and features-wise VOYP is Good for now let us wait to see more surprises. - Steve. I tried both, to me VOYP looks good as I use some products from Toysoft like PAR and Lightwav, where Hampton does not have any flagship products. Considering Toysoft’s experience in Palm – I would vote for VOYP. Also the features are also good.

I like the battery saving feature in VOYP. Also as the article reads there are future plans for it where as Articulation doesnot have any such thing.

I was worst bit by the mobivoip bug – which ate my whole $15 and gave nothing back claiming that I had reported late and their support is very bad.

Costwise and features-wise VOYP is Good for now let us wait to see more surprises.

- Steve.

]]> By: Gerard http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-14380 Gerard Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:37:08 +0000 http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/09/13/voice-over-your-palm-voyp-%e2%80%93-a-new-ray-of-hope-for-palm-voip/#comment-14380 Did you ever tried Articulation? http://www.hamptonsoftware.co.uk/articulation/ It is also a SIP client but looks more feature rich. A comparison between the two programs would also be insightful. Did you ever tried Articulation?
http://www.hamptonsoftware.co.uk/articulation/
It is also a SIP client but looks more feature rich. A comparison between the two programs would also be insightful.

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