Before I start this off: Dmitry, I am a Palm OS developer myself and know how one feels when this happens. I had my Palm OS apps cracked and lost money due to that. I can fully understand how you feel, and felt the same way. Except that I filled meh hide up with chinine and got back coding…and in my case, the damage was worse than in yours(patched product versus a few useless keys).
Please take this with a grain of salt, try to laugh about it!
It has been a long time since TamsPalm last covered Dmitry Grinberg, the Palm OS coding ace and master of self-presentation. Recently, a (rather aggressive) pirate posted a few threads on his official forums(!!!) containing links to a torrent of a few registration codes for Dmitry’s Palm OS applications. Eeker!
Dmitry, true to his tradition of efficient use of every PR-Opportunity, decided to throw a big tantrum and go about how he wants to exit Palm OS development for good. User reaction was a big eeker of compassion and probably also quite a few purchases out of solidarity. The poor Dmitry had his apps cracked, eeker….
First of all, piracy is a problem for EVERYONE in the Palm community. Every developer I talked with told me that piracy is a big problem for him – and that he is ready to invest time and money into reducing piracy… . So getting your apps cracked is common – but this response shows great PR prowess.
Dmitry, I congratulate you warmly on your smartness, thank you for reading TamsPalm and for beeing around!
P.s. If you really want to quit the market – DONT. You are just cutting the tree off that you are sitting on… . Reestablishing your presence in a different mobile sector will take a long time – and be sure that the pirates will be right behind you!
P.s.2 Your apps seem to have a very stable key system that wasn’t cracked so far. so just take a chill pill and relax =).
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well actually I was completely serious
I can’t believe someone really cracked Dmitrys Software?
Nobody cracked his software. Somebody just posted keys (which are useless unless used on the device(s) that they are generated for).
Oh yeah there are several keygens for his applications. I saw a Blue Pill keygen, an UDMH keygen, SkinUI, and others.
I might be wrong??
Dmitry, it’s a problem we all have to deal with. If you dodge out I don’t think that at this time there is anyone out there with your unique skills at being able to break open the kernel and fix all that crap. Don’t split yet, it’s alright. Just put a stronger algorithm in your next versions of the software!
your apps have been cracked there are keygens – tutorials on how to… you are a cry baby who cracks competitors products – a hypocrite and a 18 year old infant – get out of programming – ur not wanted or needed – ur programs have destroyed more palms than any published app to date . good bye and good riddance … INS deport this ruskie – ur soft is dangerous and itll be only a matter of time till you yourself are sued for the likes of blue pill and warpspeed (good way to destroy a palm) … i wont say where to get the keygens… but grow up… what a baby. give this child a pacifier to suck on. hint – he uses pnos and armlets and a memory resident checksum decryption function.
Umm, in the thread at 1src. Dmitry was exposed of pirating other people’s software.
“Nobody cracked his software. Somebody just posted keys (which are useless unless used on the device(s) that they are generated for).”
Thats how Palm pirating works. They use MultiUserHack to change the user name for a specific application. I don’t think anything is ever cracked.
All his applications have been cracked. There *ARE* keygens for each one of his applications. You aren’t just looking where you should.
well he reacted hypocritically as he have been involved in cracking other apps and he is an active member of some palm cracking forums… so..
“escupe al cielo que te caera en la cara”
Dmitry is just a hypocrite. He has bricked Palms in the past and takes no responsibility for his software. Worship him if you want.
Regarding the keygens. Hence the reason I said “I might be wrong??” I was just relaying what *he* told me. After I saw the 1SRC post (which was after I posted the 1st comment here, and after talking with Dmitry), I did a little research and saw references to keygens on a register only forum, although I did not register.
As he also stated, he emailed the developers (I don’t know the accuracy of this claim). Now, I am going to take a neutral position on this. All the evidence that I have is his word and the screen shots (as well as links to forums where software resides). I would need to email, say, Kinoma, which I will not do for various reasons.
“Dmitry is just a hypocrite. He has bricked Palms in the past and takes no responsibility for his software. Worship him if you want.”
Worship him??? Who said I was worshiping him?
I find him very helpful. Many times he has been able to help me.
I am going to defend him in this instance because he has helped me. When you work on very low system levels “hacking” things (playing with memory) you run the risk of bricking things. Not all hardware was created equal and not all apps are perfect. For instance, using UDMH with a very reckless application can be horribly fatal. Setting the wrong clock settings in Warpspeed can be fatal. I have seen applications that run differently across two independent devices of the same model.
Do not take this as worshiping him. If I were to worship him I would have made a comment along the lines of “… is god.” If anything, I find some of his utilities helpful.
Remember, a hack is just that, a hack. Use at your own risk.
I should say, I don’t necessarily support cracking other applications to circumvent their registration systems.
I like his apps but in the forums he would simply brag about how his apps couldnt be cracked, then in his code he’ll put “bet you cant crack this app” or something similiar, You have to always remember that anything’s possible, and someone is going to have your ticket if you brag too much
Dmitry Grinberg is for sure a brilliant developer, bringing nice hacks to the community.
But he has also proven to be very arrogant, sometimes finding dirty ways to steal other developers’ work (I think back of his fight against the developer of PalmRevolt, stealing his skins), or developing clones of other applications.
Therefore, I believe that he, in a way, deserved to be somehow annoyed like he was lately.
Regards.
one of my programms is listed in the famous xml file that nobody knows but everyone use
I may have loose money of course but for me it was also like beeing in the “hall of fame” of pilot developpers (yeah… pilot, not palm, old story…)
xml, what xml? I definitely, positively have no idea what xml file you are talking about…
Looks like his exessive hype and attitude has turned quite a few against him, myself included.
“When you work on very low system levels “hacking” things (playing with memory) you run the risk of bricking things.
I’d agree if this wasnt done intentionally, but Dmitry has bragged endlessly about making programs that will INDEED brick your device; then he laughs about it.
So, if someone hacked his software, I say woot wooooot for them; he’s just getting what he has been giving.
When one produces great apps, they shouldnt have to toot their own horn; the users of that app will do it for you. Dmitry feels the need to throw it in your face on how great he is; which for me just means I’ll NEVER use anything he codes.
Dmitry, you really should be ashamed of yourself; if you had not stolen from others in the past, I’d say you have every right to be pissed; but YOU are the hypocrite and will probably remain one as long as you are Dmitry!
Well, I do not know his past history.
As for now, I can see Dmitry’s excellent skills in playing with our (loved) palms.
His PowerDigi is the only one digitizer calibration tool which works on my T3, so if I really can’t stand the drift I will end paying his small fee for such a useful app. Shame on Palm for not having done this kind of SW part of the standard OS features.
I could also play with Bluepill on a Treo680… Very nice!
And shame to those lamers for stealing him his deserved money.
Regards,
I’m not new to PDAs (been using them for 10 years & have had about 6 of them) but I AM new to third party software for PDAs, since I’ve only recently graduated to “power user”. So I suspect I’m not “getting” the irony of this blog entry, since I’m not privy to the backstory.
But that’s not going to stop me from commenting!
Piracy is not a problem for EVERYONE in the Palm community. It’s a problem for EVERYONE. Period. (Unless you’re 89 years old & living in a nursing home.)
I’m a software developer from way back. I mean waaaay back. No, not the days when you hard wired the boards, but I do have some keypunch (cards) experience under my belt. I also remember lugging around multi-tiered disc packs. What a pain, but it was very cool, because everyone who knew anything knew you were hard core. But I digress.
Piracy is a problem for everyone. Plus, it’s just plain wrong. I don’t know why it is, but (probably otherwise) good people who would never dream of walking into a store & stealing something they can hold in their hands have no qualms about getting keygens or cracks for software. People who can’t afford to pay their rent are using Adobe Photoshop. Or Dreamweaver. Hmmm… Somehow, to a select group of people, they don’t see all the brainstorming, thoughts, late nights, sweat, coffee, beer & pizza that went into developing & creating great apps that make our lives easier, better and/or more fun. And therefore, the price, whether it’s $14.95 or $399 seems ridiculous to them & they feel justified in using the software illegally. Go figure.
I’m not a visionary, so I don’t know how piracy will affect trying & purchasing software as we know it today. But I do know it WILL affect it. And if the effect is similar with software the way it has affected most things in our lives, the bad guys will make it harder for the good guys to get things done. That’s the sucky part.
PS – the sucky part also includes software developers who don’t get paid by all the people using their software! (Sorry – forgot to add that, too!)
Hi,
thank you for talking back.
You raised a few good points here, thank you for your comment!
I am not a complete pro myself, but I write – so feel free to chime in whenever you feel like!
Best regards
Tam Hanna
As a software maker I know the situation is not as simple as some people make it. I don’t bother wasting my time, effort or money on copy protection simply because it is established that it is a waste. People who want to pay for my software will do it anyway. Those that don’t will find a way to copy it. If they do it is no loss to me. They wouldn’t have bought it and they haven’t stolen anything because I still have my code and my product. My income went up when I stopped using copy protection – sales didn’t change, but I was no longer spending valuable time and money trying to stop the inevitable.
If you don’t like Dmitry’s software, don’t use it. But to b***h & moan because he spent endless hours producing software & then gets upset about it being stolen, are you that daft? When’s the last time you did anything for free, and for ungrateful degenerates at that? He has every right to be upset, just as you would be too. Unless you are a freeware developer, you haven’t earned the right to b***h about this.
I like that software. thx!
dmitris products are cutting edge hax. nobody needs to cry if they brick their device hacking it. i read the documentation that dude distrubuted with the programs.
Fairly warned, ye were.
about piracy. hmm. i found this page whilst looking for a keygen. cuz i can’t afford to pay for this program. i am poor. im lucky to have my palm. so frankly, its either i use udmh, or i dont. and that’s between me and me. And if i do get it to work, i might pay for it legitimately later. it wouldnt’ be the first time. but reading all this noise wasted my time lol.
Nice work dmitri. top notch coding ‘tu
Damn at all the noise….
I can see both sides of this also, bu if Dmitry’s prorams weren’t so good to begin with, then no one would need to get a keygen for it.
I’m not saying either way about Dmitry ’cause I don’t know, but a hacker gets hacked, that’s the way it works. Sometimes the hacks make it work better. That’s what hackers do. Crackers n the other hand are the deviants. And when the world comes to a standstill because of aliens, are own AI or power hungry governments; I want the hackers and crackers on my side.