Yesterday, the developer team of PDAPerformance sent a mail to all beta testers of Saguaro and wrote that the development of Saguaro has been cancelled.
PDAPerformance wanted to program a new GUI for Palm OS. A first public demo of it, called “LineUp”, showed a GUI consisting of widgets with interesting visual effects.









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Such a shame… I really wanted to see what an app could do over the palm os. ‘Cause it’s not multi-tasking (shame) it makes this kind of app quite efficient.
From what I’ve seen all they had is a glorified widget engine.
It was a widget engine with lots of eyecandy! Is there any chance for a source code release?
Why did everybody forget about Screens Environment?
I guess that’s the end of a chapter folks… And as I’ve said in the past — LineUp is more or less as preview of what was to come with Saguaro!
Best regards
Ryan
It is literally impossible to find the saguaro prc file, now that the company is down. Does anyone have it that could email it to me?
Hi,
I am sorry, but I never got the file…
Also, it IMHO is worthless as there is no SDK,…
Best regards
Tam Hanna
How come PDA performance never released the source code? They are not going to use it anymore so they should at least make it GNU…
Nothing’s literally impossible.
AlphasmartUser: Marshall and the boys at PDAP are heck-good coders — I’m sure you’ll see them around a bit, even if they aren’t in the PalmOS field. They probably have some nice code there they’d like to hang on to for future projects.
It’s probably the equivalent of asking Dmitry to opensource some of his unreleased projects. Just not gonna happen.
And for that matter, not everything SHOULD be GNU’d as you seem to imply in your comment. Could you imagine the hell that would insue of Dmitry released all of his hacks under GNU?
Not all GNU is free software… I wasn’t implying that ALL software should be GNU… I would think that abandonware that won’t be used by the company anymore should be GNU’d so good software does not go to waste…
Hi Alphasmart User,
having once used a stone-old laptop myself, I can at least somewhat relate to the concept of wishing that “useless” stuff gets abandonwared(e.g. Win 3.1).
However, as a developer, there are various reasons this can not be done - last but not least, there always is the possibility that someone interested later on purchases the rights to the software and wants to continue supporting it.
And this is hindered by the GPL. For example, I would love to fork SmallBASIC and start selling it as a supported product - but I cant…
Best regards
Tam Hanna
“Not all GNU is free software…”
In all technicality you are wrong. While people can offer GNUGPL software for money (the license allows this) they must also provide source (the license requires this) so, no, you can get GNU software for free and Free.
As an example, take RHEL (Red hat). They provide their source, imo, but it’s a b*tch to get a hold of. They make their money by forcing (or suggesting) users, mostly large corporate, or business entities, to invest in support options. As a result you end with people wanting a free RHEL: CentOS is RHEL without the required support contract.
What I’m trying to say (it’s 3.30 am, pardon) is that there is no such thing as non-{f|F}ree GNUGPL software.
And, like I said, I doubt saguaro’s code is abondonware
Best regards,
Ryan Rix